<p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">[</span>인터뷰 제<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">2</span>공장<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">]</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;"><</span>대권 잠룡 특집 인터뷰<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">></span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">'</span>안철수도 추월<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">' </span>대선지지율 <span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">3</span>위<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">!...</span>최순실 정국 현안에 대한 입장과 국정 공백 해법은<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">?</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">- </span>이재명 성남시장</p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, “</span>박근혜 대통령과 최순실 일당<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>국가공권력을 사적인 이익 위해 남용한 조직범죄집단<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">”</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">-</span>검찰 수사<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>뇌물죄 빠지는 등 대통령 배려하고 적당한 선에서 조정한 듯</p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">-</span>박근혜 대통령<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>반전 노리며 시간 끌기 나선 듯</p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">-</span>박근혜 대통령 임기 끝나면 구속 수감해야</p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">자<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>월요일 두 번째 인터뷰 시간입니다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>박근혜 대통령이 피의자로<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>사상 최초로 입건이 됐는데<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>그 전날 야권의 소위 잠룡 <span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">8</span>분이 모여서<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, “</span>퇴진과 탄핵을 동시에 투트랙으로 진행하겠다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">” </span>이런 합의를 했습니다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>그분들 중에 가장 섭외가 쉬운<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>전화연결도 보통 대선 잠룡들은 쉽지 않습니다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>이 분은 스튜디오 출연도 전화 한통으로 간단하게 해결됩니다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>쉬운 남자 이재명 시장님을 모셨습니다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준 <span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>안녕하십니까<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명 <span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>네 감사합니다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>출연을 저희가 의뢰하니까 출연은 하겠는데 조건을 하나 다셨어요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>말 좀 많이 하게 해달라고<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>아니 기왕이면 올건데<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>그래서 저희가 직접 스튜디오에 모시고 첫 번째 인터뷰 진행하고 중간에 저희가 한번 쉬었다가 또 <span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">3</span>부에서도 나옵니다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>듣다가 문자로 남겨주시면 제가 질문을 골라서 실시간으로 이재명 시장님께 제 바로 <span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">1</span>미터 앞에 앉아계시거든요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>섭외가 굉장히 쉬운 분인데<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>너무 우습게 알진 말아줬으면 좋겠어요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>전 좀 우습습니다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>요즘 인터넷에 본인의 이름을 하루에 몇 번을 검색하십니까<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">?</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>수십번 하죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>매일 기사 얼마나 나는지 맨날 하시죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">?</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>제가 그걸 왜 하냐면 그걸 다시 <span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">2</span>차적으로 제 의견을 붙여서 트위터든 페이스북에 써야하고<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>그래야 기사가 또 나오니까<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>또 나오죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>저는 사실은 주류 언론에서 절대 안 써주니까 어제 보니까 아니 <span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">8</span>명 서 있는데 왜 저에서 딱 자르냐고요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>화면에서도 안희정 지사 옆에서 잘라버리고 발언도 거기까지만 보도하고 내 껀 빼버리고 너무 서러우니까 그래도 김어준 총수같은 분이 불러주니까<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">..</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>검색에 한이 맺혀서 검색을 하는거죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>본인의 검색하는데 한계가 있으니까<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>주변 보좌관들한테 검색하라고 하시죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>내가 놓친 기사 없어<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">?</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>거기까진 아닙니다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>게다가 제가 이재명 시장님을 처음 인터뷰할 때 지지율이 약 <span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">0.1%</span>정도 나왔거든요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. 0.1%</span>라는건 사람들이 실수로 누를 때 나오는 거거든요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. 1</span>년만에 <span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">10%</span>까지 나왔어요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. 100</span>배가<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">..</span>요즘 안 피곤하시죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">?</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>뭐 그런 거까지 물어보십니까<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>안 피곤할 거라고 봅니다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>잠도 잘 안 오고 막 흥분되어가지고<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. 10</span>프로가 넘어가면서 여론조사 발표를 보면 기관마다 좀 다르긴 한데<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>안철수 전 대표를 제치고 <span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">3</span>위로 올라섰다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>문재인 반기문 다음에 <span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">3</span>위로<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">..</span>야권에선 이긴 거죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>요거 보고 흥분하셨죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">?</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>저는 사실 흥분하지 않았어요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>우리 총수님은 흥분했을 거라고 예측하시는데 요 시기가 좀 빠른 정도 저는</p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>당연한<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">..</span>올게 왔구나<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">?</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>네 좀 빠르다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>그게 좀 당황스러운 정도<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>그 비결이 뭐라고 보십니까<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">?</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>비결이라고 할 게 없고요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>세상이 많이 변했는데 전에는 우리 국민대중들이 정치에 동원 당했죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>그런데 요즘은 네트워크가 워낙 발달하고 사회적 불평등 너무 커지고 그러다보니까 국민들이 자기 목소리를 내게 된 거예요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>전 세계적인 현상인데 우리 사회도 다를 바 없고 그리고 저는 정치인이 국민을 지도하는 게 아니라 국민의 뜻을 대리하는 대리인이고 월급 받는 머슴 종업원 이렇게 생각하니까 저는 그 국민들이 분출될 출구가 필요하다</p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>본인이 출구였다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">?</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>출구가 되려고 노력했죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>그랬더니 사람들이 출구인지 알아봐준 거입니까<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>조금<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>아직까진 조금이죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>주인 입장에서든 국가 살림이든 개인 살림이든 다를 바가 없는데 주인의 입장에서는 월급 주고 쓰고 있는 우리 머슴이 일하는 사람들이 내 뜻을 잘 받들어주고 내 대신에 열심히 일해주고 어려운 일 먼저 나서주고 하면 이쁘죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>당연한 거 아닌가 싶어요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>그래서 이쁨 받고 있다고 생각하시는 거군요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>어제도 사실은 회의 명칭이 최초에 제안된 게 정치지도자회의였거든요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>제가 그 얘기를 듣는 순간 두드러기가 돋더라고요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>지도자들이 아니죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>사실은<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>국민이 지도당하는 사람이 아니잖아요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>그래서 뭐라고 바꾸셨나요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">?</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>그 이름을 안 쓰고 어제 결국 정치회의 이렇게 바꿨죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>정치회의<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>본인의 주장으로요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">?</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>네 제가 실무협의할 때 이건 안된다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>국민들로부터 지탄 받는다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>눈치가 빠르세요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>원래 눈칫밥으로 먹고 사는거죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>이게<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>눈치가 빨라야 돼요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>그런데 이 얘기를 지속적으로 들으실텐데 <span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">10</span>프로 올라가긴 했는데 그 지지자들이 보수 지지자들을 끌어온 건 아니고 실제로 보면 야권 내에 다른 잠재 후보들을 끌어온 거 아니냐 결국은 확장성 없는 거 아니냐 이런 얘기를 또 한 번 듣게 되네요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>강성 야권 지지자들은 좋아하는데<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>원래 저는 정치가 그렇다고 보는것이죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>노무현 대통령이 하신 말씀 중에 이건 지지자를 조직하는 정치다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>라고 얘기하신 일도 있는데요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>저는 그거 맞다고 보거든요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>우리가 <span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">100</span>센트 국민의 지지를 받기 위해서 하는 게 아니라 <span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">50</span>퍼센트를 넘기면 되는 거거든요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>상대 진영의 지지자를 끌어오기 위해서 소위 중도 이동 확장 전략을 취하는 소위 중도라는 사람들 이해관계에 민감한 자기 이익에 민감한 부류인데 이런 쪽은 자기한테 이익이 되냐를 판단하는 거지<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>그 사람의 포지션을 이런 거다 이런걸 중요하게 생각하지 않거든요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>근데 만약에 포지션을 만약에 이동하잖아요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>그러면 의심을 받죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>그리고 저는 지지를 확장하는 게 실력을 보여줘서 신뢰를 확대해나가는 과정이지<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>입장을 애매하게 해서 중간쯤 가면 중간 지대에 있는 사람들이 지지할거라고 생각하는 건 착각이고 특히 보수언론들이 만든 소위 기득권자들이 만든 프레임이라고 봅니다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>그러니까 맨날 거기에 빠지죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>유의해서 볼 것은 보수주류 언론들이 결코 보수집단들한테는 중도 이동을 요구하지 않습니다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>철저히 자기 조직을 챙기도록 하죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>그리고나서 야권 지지자들이 이리로 옮겨오라고<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>그렇지만 그런데 여전히 보수성향의 지지자들이 시장님한테 넘어왔다는 정황은 없지 않습니까<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>제가 증거는 있죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>몇 명이요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>최소 수십만은 될텐데<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>실제 예를 들면 성남에 분당이라고 하는 것이 있잖아요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>강남같은데 제가 매우 과격하고 원칙적이고</p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>천당 아래 분당이라고<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">..</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>성남에서는 분당지역에서의 저에 대한 지지도가 본 시가지 쪽보다 더 높습니다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>오히려<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">?</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>그리고 며칠 전에 예비역장성들이 저한테 제안을 했는데 그 분들 얘기가 <span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">‘</span>자존심 상한다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">’ </span>군사기밀이나 한일정보보호협정 이런 것에 대해서 우리가 아무것도 얻은 것 없이 저렇게 하는 것에 대해서 저보고 문제제기를 해달라고 제안이 들어온 거예요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>장성들 몇 명이요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">?</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>몇 명인지는 모르죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>한 분 아닙니까<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>혹시<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">?</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>그렇진 않고 그 한 분이 전달해준 사람이니까 최소 두 명이죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>보수라는 분들도 부패하고 나쁜 짓만 골라하던 소위 구악들이 보수란 이름으로 포장을 하고 있지만 그 쪽을 분리해야 됩니다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>진짜 이 사회가 합리적이고 공정하고 규칙과 원칙대로 흘러가길 바라는 게 원래 보수잖아요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>그런데 보수의 이름은 사실은 구악들이 온갖 부정부패 패악은 있는 대로 저지른 자들이 보호받고 있는데 그걸 분리해주길 바라는 거죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>그런데 저는 구악들의 지지를 받고 싶진 않아요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>구악<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>구악들은 그때 말씀드린 것처럼 작살을 내야되는 거죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>엄정한 책임을 물어야 한다 그런데 그게 아니고 이 사회의 좋은 가치를 지키고자 하는데 그야말로 생각이 바른 진짜 보수들은 오히려 이 사회가 행위에 따른 책임이 부여되는 그런 합리적인 사회가 되길 바라는거죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>그러면 박근혜 대통령과 그 주변 세력은 구악입니까<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">?</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>거의 구악들이라고 봐야죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>범죄집단이잖아요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>그것도 단순히 범죄를 저지른 게 아니라 국가공권력을 사적인 이익을 위해서 마구 남용하는 그야말로 분탕질 하는 수준의 조직범죄집단이고요 그리고 지금은 아예 법 위반에 대해서 보통 사람들은 이건 좀 규칙위반인데 숨어서 하자 이 사람들은 대놓고 하잖아요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>그쵸<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">? </span>좀 전에 <span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">PPL</span>얘기도 나왔습니다만<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>전 일단 기본 자체가 기본적으로 범죄집단이라고 봅니다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>구악 그 자체죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>대통령이 명예퇴진 할 기회를 주겠다 이런 얘기도 나오는데</p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>무슨 명예퇴진입니까<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>청와대를 나오는 순간 바로 구치소로 보내야합니다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>왜냐면 우리 사회에서 수없이 국민을 학살했던 이승만 군사 쿠데타하고 인권침해 했던 박정희<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>친일 분자들 말할 것도 없고요 그 다음에 광주에서 수 백명 학살했던 전두환<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>다 잘 먹고 잘 살고 있잖아요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>이걸 보고 배운 겁니다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. 70</span>년 동안 이렇게 해왔기 때문에 기득권자들은 아무리 나쁜 짓을 해도 처벌받지 않는다 자기들이 처리해 줄 꺼니까 그러다보니까 교만을 넘어서서 간이 배밖에 나온 상황이 되어서 대놓고 범죄를 저지르는 거죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>제가 사례를 얘기하면 소위 검찰 간부 중에 뇌물을 처벌하는 사람인데 자기 이름의 계좌로 수 억원을 송금 받은 자가 있어요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>현금으로 예를 들어서 박스로 받은 게 아니라 계좌로<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">?</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>그건 확신이기 때문에 우리는 처벌되지 않는다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>왜냐면 자기들이 처벌해 줄 테니까<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>그 양반이 처벌 아직 안 받고 있나요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">?</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>처벌 받았습니다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>그러한 인식이 이미<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>황당한 사안이죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>보통 사람들 같은 경우는 증거 없이 현금으로 받는 게 그런 노력조차<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>이번에 박근혜를 둘러싼 그 주변 사람들 행태가 딱 그렇죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>저희가 몇 마디 안했는데 제가 워낙 말이 많은데<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>말도 안 끊고 몇 마디 안했는데 <span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">15</span>분이 벌써 끝났고요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>들으시다가 이재명 시장 <span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">3</span>부에도 나옵니다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>질문 있으신 분들 문자로 남겨주시면 저희가 직접 해드릴 겁니다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. 3</span>부에서 이재명 시장 함께합니다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">3</span>부</p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>섭외가 가장 쉬운 이재명 시장 모시고 인터뷰 이어가는데 검찰의 발표 중에 마음에 안드시는거 있습니까<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">?</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>저는 세부적인 내용을 잘 모르니까요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>검찰의 일반적인 수사 방향을 보면 청와대를 매우 많이 배려했다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>기본 기조가 그렇죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>원래 긴급체포해서 증거인멸이나 입을 맞출 시간을 안주는게 기본인데 최순실 입국하니까 아이고 건강이 안 좋으시니까 쉬다가 나오시라고 하고<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>최순실씨는 현금 <span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">5</span>억을 또 인출을 했대요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>뭐했는지<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">..</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명 <span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>그런거에다가 청와대에 최초에 피의자가 아니라 참고인이다 이렇게 하니까 청와대는 조사를 거부할 명분이 생긴거죠 참고인은 안가도 되는거거든요 법률적으로<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>협조하는거니까<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>그렇게 보면 큰 의지를 갖고 있지 않은 것 같고<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>적당한 선에서 조정한게 아닌가 싶습니다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>특히 뇌물죄가 빠진 부분은<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">...</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>그러게요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>그게 사면이니<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>만약에 이재명이 그랬으면 바로 뇌물죄로 갔겠죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>무기징역 받죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>저도 보다가 내가 걸리면 무조건 무기징역인데 그러더라고요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명 <span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>법정 최하형이 <span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">10</span>년 무기징역밖에 없는 범죄를 한 두 개도 아니고 수없이 저질렀는데 특히 뇌물죄는 심하잖아요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>그건 어쨌든 배려해준 느낌이죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>크게 배려해준거죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>그런데 박근혜 대통령은 검찰 수사에 전혀 응하지 않겠다고 했어요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>이게 왜 응하지 않는걸까요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>누군가를 기다리는걸까요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>그들은 원래 그렇죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>이건 덮는 수순으로 조사받을 생각이었는데<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>안덮어지니까</p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>하도 국민들 여론이 나쁘다보니까</p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명 <span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>그래도 다 드러나버린거잖아요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>검찰수사보다 국민이 아는게 더 많아요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>그러니까 이런 상태라서 조사를 받으면 소위 빼도 박도 못하는 상황이 온거니까 거부하는게 차라리 낫겠다 이렇게 된거 같고요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>누구 기다리는거 아닙니까 이거</p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>그런거죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>시간을 끄는거죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>시간을 끄는 이유가 뭐라고 보십니까<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>반전을 노리는거죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>역사적으로 이들은 언제든지 성공했거든요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>심각한 국정 혼란이나 아니면 국민들의 엄청난 저항이 생긴뒤에 시간이 지난 뒤에 언제든지 반전을 통해서 복귀하고 그걸 기회로 만들어서 집권하고 있잫아요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: 4.19</span>때 박정희 대통령이<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">..</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: 6.10</span>항쟁 후에는 <span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">6.29 </span>선언을 해서 노태우가 성과를 먹어버렸죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>그래서 이번에도 반기문을 기다리는거 아니냐<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, 1</span>월달 들어와서 뭔가 획기적인 쇼 보여주고 반기문을 통해서 수습책을 낸다든지 재미있는 아이디어도 있잖아요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>내가 그냥 대통령 한 <span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">2</span>년만 하고 그 사이에 개헌할테고 그 사이에 내가 조정자 역할만 해주겠다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>이러면서 개현 얘기를 한다든지 또 제 <span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">3</span>지대를 만들어서 그 쪽 대표 선수로 만들면서 과거에 <span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">6.29 </span>선언처럼 소위 <span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">6.29 </span>코스프레 대 반전을 노리는거 아니냐 이건 하나의 가설인데 이것말고도 저들은 원래 이런데 엄청 유능하거든요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>일생을 오직 한길 그 길로 살아왔기 때문에 경험도 있고</p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>경험이 오래된 분들이 지금 거기에 계시죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>김기춘 비서실장도 거기에 계세요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>그렇죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span>박정의 전두환 <span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">6.29 </span>다 현장에 있었던 사람이라도 확신이 있을겁니다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>이정도면 가뿐히 되치기 할 수 있다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">,</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>촛불집회 아무리 많이 나와도 내가 한 두 번 한게 아니야<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">,</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>겨울 지나면 사람들 줄어들거고 사람들이 지겨워할거고 또 지겨워하게 만들 수 있고 그리고 이걸 이용해서 확 대반전을 이룰 수 있다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: 6.29</span>를 잠깐 되짚어보면 <span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">6.10 </span>항쟁이라고 엄청난 <span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">100</span>만 인파가 쏟아져나오니까 사실 전두환 대통령의 후원<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>체육관 선거</p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>간접대통령선거라고 하는<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>말도 안되는<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>체육관에서 <span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">3</span>천명 모아서 이 사람이 대통령이다 하면 대통령이 되는<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>득표율이 <span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">97</span>프로 나오고 그랬죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>북한보다 더한<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>그렇게 대통령 뽑았던 시절 있어요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>그거 안된다고 직선제를 요구하니까 <span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">100</span>만명이 몰려나와서 한참 이거 어떻게 되나 나라가 뒤집어지냐 이래가지고 하닥 노태우 대통령이 나타나서 내가 이 국면을 돌파하는 직선제를 하겠다고 그런 <span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">6.29 </span>코스프레처럼 이 막힌 정국을 반기문 사무총장을 통해서 뚫을 수도 있다 자기들이 기획하는거죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>그런 시대도 가능하고<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>성공했죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>기형적인 헌법<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, 5</span>년짜리 단임제 결국 노태우가 이겼죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>군사정권이 연장됐죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>그리고 또 한가지 지금 비견해볼 수 있는 상황이 뭔가 하면<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>그 다음입니다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>그 다음에 야권에는 후보가 김대중<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>김영삼 속칭 빠방한 후보들이 있었는데 둘 중에 누구 한 사람이 한다 믿고 있었는데 여권에서는 노태우 이후에 후보가 별로 없었어요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>그러자 김대중 전 대통령이 거절했다고 하는 <span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">3</span>당 합당을 또 합니다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>여당인지 야당인지 헷갈리기 시작하죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. 3</span>당 합당과 제<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">3</span>지대 겹치지 않습니까<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>그러게요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. 3</span>자를 좋아하나요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>그런 기획과 구상들을 하기 십상이다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>제<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">3</span>지대를 포함해서 새로운 정치조직을 만드는 시도는 계속 있었죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>지금 새누리당 안에서도 친박과 비박 나눠서 소위 비박이라고 불리는 쪽은 일종의 면피를 위한 탄핵 주장 이런걸 하고 있지 않습니까<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>결국 쪼개질테고 쪼개져서 나오면 친박 몸통 일부 떼어내고 다시 재기를 노리는거죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>그러면서 혼자가 아니라 다른 쪽하고 모아서 소위 제<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">3</span>지대 이런걸 만들어서 반기문 같은 사람이 올라타서 전혀 새로운 세력인것처럼 마치 광주학살했던 민정당이 자신들의 모양을 숨기기 위해서 김영삼을 끌어들여서 민자당을 만들었죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>김종필까지 끌어들여서<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: 3</span>당합당과 제 <span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">3</span>지대는 유사한 지점이 있습니다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>기획은 이 사람들이 원래 해방 후에 나라 팔아먹고 분단시키고 쿠데타하고 있던 세력이 사실 같은 세력이거든요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>얼굴만 계속 바꾸는거죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>지금도 다시 얼굴 바꾸고 성형해서 나타나지 않을까</p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>성형이요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">? </span>귀가 번쩍하네요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>최순실씨 특기인데<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>그렇게 바라보신다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>경계심을 가져야죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: 6.29</span>코스프레 좋은 단어 나왔네요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>이 사람들 코스프레 많이 해요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>제<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">3</span>자 코스프레<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>새누리당이 그러잖아요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>자기들이 몸통인데 탈당인데 탄핵하자 이러는건 자기들이 마치 피해자가 제<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">3</span>자인것처럼 코스프레를 하는거죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>코스프레 진짜 좋아합니다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>시장님의 주장은 속지마라는건데 그런데 추미애 대표가 갑자기 계엄얘기를 했잖아요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>집회 직전에<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>그래서 일각에서는 야권의 제<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">1</span>당의 대표가 어떻게 그런 극단적인 얘기를 하나 이런 비판도 있는데 어떻게 보십니까<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">?</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>뉴스공장에서 안되면 이재명 부르는 것처럼 저보고 계엄령 얘기해라 실제로 그런 움직임이 있는 것 같다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>미리 예방적 차원에서 얘기를 하면 좋겠다 했는데 저도 사실 고민 좀 했죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>그런 카드를 쓸 수 없도록<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>사실 공포심을 조장하는거거든요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>양면이 있죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>국민들한테 불안감을 조성하고 예방 효과는 있는데 그래서 저도 고민을 많이 했는데 실제로 가능성이 없는 일은 아니거든요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>이 자들은 뭐든지 하는 사람입니다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>사람 목숨 파리 목숨으로 알고 숫자에 불과하죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. 300</span>명 죽었냐 <span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">400</span>명 죽었냐 중요하지 않습니다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>이건 중요하지 않습니다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>죽나보다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>내가 안 죽었으니까<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>그리고 자기들과 국민들은 다른 존재라고 보는거예요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>지배대상이죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>그 중에 숫사 좀 주는건 아무 의미가 없죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>그 사람들 입장에서 그러니까 <span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">7</span>시간동안 뭐했는지 아무도 모르는거예요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>온국민이 그걸 쳐다보고 저렇게 죽어가네 울면서 다 쳐보고 있는데 이 대통령이라는 사람이 나중에 저녁때 나타나서 구명조끼 입었다는데 그렇게 발견하기 어려워요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">? </span>이런 완벽한 헛소리였죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">? </span>안봤단 얘기거든요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>대중들의 삶이든 목숨이든 관심없는 사람이라서 자기 권력을 지키기 위해서 무슨 짓이든 할 수 있는 사람이죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>눈치만 안보면 총을 쏠 수 있는 사람들이죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>미리 우리도 가정에 넣어두고 미리 마음의 준비도 하고 그런 상황이 벌어지지 않도록 준비해야죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>그러니까 선제적으로 그런 발언을 한 것이 오히려 필요했다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">?</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>그러니까 저한테 그 역할 하라고 한거죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>원래 총대 메는 짓 잘하잖아요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>원래 그거로 여기까지 오신거 아닙니까<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>그렇죠 사실은 남들이 안하는거<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>아 이 총을 짚어야 하나 말아야 할 때 나한테 다 줘 총<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>총 다 짊어지고<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>그런건 했는데 이건 좀 아닌 것 같다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">,</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: 10</span>프로 넘어가니까 아무래도<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>그거랑 관계가 없구요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>너무 심각한 얘기여서 그런데 마침 추미애 대표가 비난 많이 받았죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>저는 비난 받을 가능성도 고려했지만 이 얘기까지 해야되나 고민 중에 추미애 대표가 얘기를 하신거고 저는 고맙죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>하지만 짚긴 짚어야 합니다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>이런 짓도 충분히 할 수 있는 사람들입니다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>가능했었고 실제로 했었죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>광주에서도 사람 많이 죽었지 않습니까<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>그런 일이 있고나서 집권을 해버렸어요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>처벌도 받지 않았어요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>지금까지도 사실상<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">...</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>우리가 한번 되지퍼볼게<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>프랑스가 세계적인 강국이잖아요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>나치에 부역했던 사람들 해방된 후에 만 몇천명 정도를 처형했죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>그 뿐만 아니라 지금도 나치 부역자들 <span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">90</span>세가 다들 넘었는데 전 세계를 다니면서 추적해서 잡고 있습니다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>그런 정도가 있어야<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">..</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>독일도 그렇게 하고 있죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>프랑스가 세계적 강국으로 살아남는거죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>그런데 우리나라는 나쁜짓을 크게 많이 할수록 살아남을 가능성이 높은 사회가 되어 있어요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>대한민국이 민주공화국이 아닌거죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>이번 사태에 박근혜에 관련돼서 국민들이 이렇게 화가 나는 이유도 저도 사실은 혁명적 변화의 시기가 왔다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>건국혁명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>제대로 나라를 완성할 기회가 왔다고 보는 이유가 이런 것들을 한번 정리할 절호의 기회가 온거죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>그래서 저는 박근혜에 대해서 사회적 불안을 좀 줄이기 위해서 퇴로를 열어주자 저는 그 전부터 명확하게 준비했는데 박근혜는 반드시 감옥에 넣어야 한다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>죄를 지으면 처벌받는구나 온 국민이 평등하구나<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>라는 생각을 국민들 속에 심어줘야 합니다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>그래야 희망이 생겨요 그런데 이 사회는 규칙 어기고 남한테 피해 많이 끼친 자일수록 존중받는 사회입니다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>그러니까 아무도 희망을 갖지 않잖아요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>이번 기회에 국고 손실을 엄청나게 한 이명박 하고 이번에 조직 범죄 주범 박근혜는 둘이 손 잡고 반드시 감옥에 보내야 합니다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>라고 주장하시는거고<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>그런데 보수진영 일각에서는 연민같은게 남아있을테니까 그 분들을 배려해서 대통령에 대한 예우 차원에서 스스로 퇴진한다면<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>예를 들어서 닉슨도 결국은 법적 처벌을 받지 않는 조건으로 <span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">2</span>년에 걸쳐서 실갱이를 하다가 본인이 내려왔단 말이죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>그런 것 같은 기회를 줘야되는거 아니냐<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>닉슨은 도청을 한거고 거짓말했다 이건데요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>박근혜 대통령은 전국민을 상대로 수없이 매일 했어요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>행동 자체 존재 자체가 거짓말이었던 겁니다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>그건 맞습니다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>이거하고 차원이 다르죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>이건 조직 범죄라니까요 보통 국민들은 저지르고 싶어도 할 수 없는 범죄를 한거예요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>국가권력을 이용해서<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">,</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>그런데 그 수준이 너무 잡범수준이라서<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>너무 저질스럽고<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>너뮤 규모도 크고 광범위하죠</p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>규모가 큰거만 있으면 덜 부끄러울지도 몰라요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>너무 작은거<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">,</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>기가막힐 일인데<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">,</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>그 중에 제가 제일 황당한건 자기가 단골로 다니던 미용사의 남편분을 아무런 근거없이 국회의원을 만들어주려고 한다든가<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>그거 모르셨구나 뉴스가 뉴스를 밀어내고 있기 때문에<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>아니면 정유라의 동창 아버지를 위해서 조그만 회사를 밀어주고 샤넬백을 받는다든가 이건<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">..</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>제가 사실 어떤 사건이 벌어지면 변호사 습관이 남아서 분석하는 경향이 있거든요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>사실 이번 사태는 제가 포기했습니다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>어제 <span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">8</span>개를 발표했는데 읽다가 포기를 했어요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>너무 많아서 제가 분석할 가치가 없더라고요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>존재 자체나 규모가 이런 것들이 그냥 나쁜 사람들이예요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>조직 범죄 주범들이고 이게 저는 더 이상 나쁜 사람<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>있을 수 없는 국가적 범죄 집단들 이렇게 정리하고 말기로 했습니다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>파면 끝이 없어요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>하나 하나 따지는게 무의미하다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>저는 머리 아파서<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>진짜 안하기로 했어요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>총수님이 물어보는거 제가 적당히 넘어간게 실제 잘 몰라요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>포기했어요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>시장님은 자기 이름만 검색하다보니까 뉴스를 놓치는거예요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>너무 많아서<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>그게 의미가 없는거죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>그건 검찰이 할 일이고 특검이 할 일이죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>검찰도 그 역할을 안하기 때문에 국민들이 대신해서 집회 나와서 떠들고 있는거예요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>주장하고<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>그래서요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>이건 꼭 하나 해야되겠다 싶어서 전에 의견을 한번 물어본 적이 있어요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>세월호 <span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">7</span>시간을 직무유기로 고민하는건 어떠냐 했더니 한 <span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">1-2</span>주 됐는데 왜 고발안하냐 말만 해놓고 제가 실제 고발을 할 생각을 가지고 있습니다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>수사할 계기라도 만들어줘야 하고 수없이 많은 사람들이 죽어가는 시간에 뭘 잘했다고 다른 사람 얘기하면 고발하고 그럽니까<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>자기가 뭘 했다고 밝히면 될거 아닙니까<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>스무고개 하는거예요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">? </span>국민을 상대로<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">? </span>스무고개로 제가 끝장을 내주도록 하겠습니다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>거기에 관저에 있었다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">,</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>관저에 있었다고 하면 집에 있었단 얘기 아닙니까<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>그게 공무원 기준으로 보면 큰 숙직실뿐<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>숙직실은 그 사람 얘이고 여긴 청와대 안에 있는 집이예요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>관에서 제공하는 주거공간이죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>집에서 아니 처음엔 늦을 수 있다고 봐요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>화장도 해야되고<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>이해하는데 왜 다섯시까지 안나타나나고요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>집에 있었어도 티비가 있지 않았습니까<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>그게 말이 안되거든요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>티비를 안봤단 얘기거든요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>보고 내용도 청와대에서 몇십번 했다는데<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>한번이라도 읽어봤음 내용이라도 알잖아요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>배 안에 갇혀서 못 나오고 있다는 사실을 온국민이 보고 있는데 발견하기 어렵다니<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>물 위에 둥둥 떠있는걸 상상한거예요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>첫 보고정도 받았나봐요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>전 첫 보고도 안받았을거라고 봅니다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>받을 수 없는 상황이었거나<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>그럼 어디에 있었다고 보세요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">?</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>추측이지만<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>그 사람들이 굳이 청와대에 있었다고 우기는걸로 보면 저는 바깥에 있었을 가능성이 더 많다고 생각해요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>저는 아무리 대통령이 무서워도 수백명이 죽어갑니다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>관저에 있으면 가서라도 얘기하죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>가서 얘기해야지<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>안하면 저는 만약에 관저에 있는데 대면보고 안하고 서면보고만 하고 있었다면 그 자들도 직무유기입니다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>메일만 보냈다는거 아닙니까<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>그 자들도 직무유기의 주범들입니다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>보고 안한거잖아요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>있는데 보고를 왜 안합니까<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>쫓아가서 얼굴 보여주고 아닌거죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>제가 보기엔 그 청와대 공무원들이 아무리 엉망진창이기로 관저에 있는 사람이고 깨어있는 사람이면 가서 대면으로 이거 큰일입니다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>빨리 오셔야됩니다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>했겠죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>그런데 아무도 한 사람이 없다는거 아닙니까<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>이건 그 자리에 없었을 가능성이 매우 높아요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>매우 높다고 주장하면서<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>가능성이 있는거죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>가능성 얘기했는데</p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>순간 살짝 발을 빼시네<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>그렇죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>저 고발 엄청 많이 당했거든요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>고발은 저도 전문가인데<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>질문 몇 가지 골라볼게요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>청취자 한 분이 <span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">‘</span>이재명 시장님 고정출연 바랍니다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.’</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>고정 출연하면 출연료 줍니까<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">?</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>저희가 이제<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">..</span>리포터 하실래요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">?</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>저는 지금 전국<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">..</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>하도 전국을 돌아다니시니까<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>이것도 있습니다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. ‘</span>요즘 들어서 문재인 이재명 지지자들이 특히 온라인상에서 서로 싸우고 있습니다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>한 마디 해주세요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">! ’</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>저는 하지 말라고 말리죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>그런데 말려지지 않는 사람이 있어요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>저는 어차피 우리가 한길로 가야될 사람이고 저는 제가 경선에서 이길거라고 확신하니까<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>그럴 경우에 그 쪽의 지지를 받아야 하잖아요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>그 쪽 지지를 받아야 되거든요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>그래서 저는 공격하지 마라 특히 허위사실 고소나 인격적 모욕하면 안된다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>자기 주장은 할 수 있죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>차이를 드러낼 순 있어요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>그걸 넘어서는 걸 하지 말라고 수없이 저는 가끔씩 트위터 쓰면 제가 쪽지도 보내고요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>그거 도움 안된다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">,</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>그런데 말 안듣는 사람들 정체가 뭡니까<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>저는 그게 공작조라고 보는 거죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>제가 얼마 전에<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">..</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>의도적으로 야권 지지자들을 분산시키는<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">,.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>저에 대해서 탈당을 했었다고 허위 사실 유포하고 심지어 이명박의 아바타이다 이런 얘기까지 하고요 분리하려고 하고요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>노무현 대통령을 공격했던 사람이다 이렇게 해가지고 저를 분리하려고 하는데<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>상상력이 좀 이상한데 좀 그럴 듯하게 연결을 해야지<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">..</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>그런데 그게 상당히 먹혔어요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>탄핵을 주장하는게 지가 즉시 사퇴하면서 선거 준비 시간이 짧으니까 시간 오래 걸리는 탄핵하려고 한다 저쪽 부탁받아 하는 짓이다 해서 이렇게까지 해서<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>이명박 대통령의 아바타라는건 무슨 논리로<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">?</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>탄핵을 주장하는게 새누리당이고 그건 시간 끌려는 것이고 결국 기각될거 알면서 면죄부 주려고 하는 작전인데 그 뒤에 이명박이 있는데 이재명이 그 주장을 따라하는걸 봐서 이명박계다 이렇게 얘기하는거죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>그런데 이게 상당히 많이 유포돼서 믿는 사람이 저한테 쪽지도 보내고 카페 이런데 보면 진짜 그럴 줄은 몰랐다 그래서 제가 그 얘기도 한번 한거죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>박근혜 대통령이 주제니까 박근혜 대통령은 반드시 감옥으로 보내야한다면서 끝에 이것도 붙이는거예요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>이명박도 함께 손잡고<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>그 이유가 있는데 이건 저는 문재인 지지자들도 아니고 문재인 지지자인척 하는 분열공작조라고 생각합니다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>저는 명백한 허위사실 유표하는데 있어서는 전에도 한번 공개적으로 한 얘기가 있는데 자료 수집해서 법적조치 하려고 하거든요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>허위사실 유포는 대의민주주의 주권자의 판단을 흐리는 사회 악이예요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>그게 어느 쪽에 있는 척 하든지간에 그래서 우리 야권 안에서도 있으면 안 되고 저는 우리 야권 지지자들이 수준 낮은 사람이 아니라고 생각하거든요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>결국은 공작조다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>분열을 야기하는<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>저는 아니라고 믿습니다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>알겠습니다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. ‘</span>시장님이 구단주로 계시는 성남 축구팀이 <span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">2</span>부로 추락했습니다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>책임지십시오<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">’</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>어후 진짜 제가 말을 못하겠는데 저는 재정지원 열심히 했고 진짜 독립성 부여했고했는데<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">...</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>본인이 구단주인 축구팀 하나 유지 못하는 사람이 어떻게 대권에 나오신다고<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">..</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>제가 감독이 아니라서<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>저는 다시 내년에 <span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">2</span>부에서 열심히 하고 또 조직정비할 시간이라고 생각하고 사실 저희가 시민구단을 인수한 다음에 원래 <span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">2</span>부로 가야 맞거든요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>정비하고 시민구단적 성격을 갖고 왔어야 하는데 살아남아서 너무 기대가 너무 컸던 것 같아요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>상위권 올라가고 결국 저력이라고 하는게 있더라고요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>결국 무너졌는데<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">,</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>성남축구팀이 <span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">1</span>부로 올라가기 전에는 대권후보 어림도 없다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>현안 한가지만 여쭤보면 한일군사정보협정을 굉장히 시급하게 체결하고 그리고 대통령이 이걸 서명하겠다고 의지를 표명한 상태예요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>일본은 좀 천천히 하자는 입장인데</p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>오히려<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">..</span>왜 이렇게 급하게 한다고 보십니까<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">?</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>저는 박근혜 대통령이 미국의 압력 때문에 그런게 아닌가 싶고요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>두 번째는 일본에 대한 국민들이 생각하는 것 이상으로 일종의 부채의식을 갖고 있는 것 아니냐<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>박근혜 대통령이 일본에 대한 부채의식이 있다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">?</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>아버지 떄문에 아닐까 싶어요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>아버지가 청와대에서 일본 군복을 입고 말타고 돌았다는거 아니예요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>그걸 보고 자란 사람이거든요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>청와대에 있을 때 그랬다는 이야기는 확인된 내용입니까<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">?</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>저도 보도하니까<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>허위 사실 고소당하면 할수 없지만<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>그런 사진이 있더라고요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>자기가 광복군이라고 누군가가 본인이 광복군이라고 하십시오<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>그랬더니 내가 무슨 광복이군이냐<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>일본 장군 출신인데 하고 거부했다는 얘기도 있다고 하잖아요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>일본에 대한 어떤 친밀감 연대감이 박정희 대통령이 있었는데<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>귀속의식이 한국만큼 상당정도 일본에 대한 귀속의식이 있을 수 있죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>그런데 그건 부수적인거고 한일군사정보보호협정이 대한민국 안보에는 전혀 도움이 안되고<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>특히 일본이 북한에 비교해서 군사안보적인 측면에서 적성<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>적대국적인 성격이 북한 못지 않거든요 왜냐면 북한이 남한을 침공한 그 후로부터 <span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">5</span>년까지 한반도를 침공해서 지배하고 있던 자들입니다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>그리고 독도를 여전히 자기 땅이라고 우기고 그래서 침략야욕을 드러내고 있고 일제강점<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>침략의 역사를 사과하지도 반성하지도 않으면서 위안부 합의를 강제로 밀어붙인 국가죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>그런데 적성 국가한테 우리군사정보를 제공한다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>특히 일본에 우리가 얻을 정보는 없거든요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>미국으로부터 다 받는 정보이기 떄문에 일방적으로 우리 정보를 일본에 주는건데 이걸 왜 이리 서두르냐 설명할 길이 없지 않스빈까<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>사드 정보 때문이라고 하는 얘기도 있습니다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>물론이죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>오바마정부가 퇴임하기 전에 사드를 완벽하게 만들었다라는 것을 보여주기 위해서 사드배치도 서두르고 미국의 입장도 있긴 한 것 같아요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>그런데 사드는 내년에 배치되잖아요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>되더라도 지금 탄핵이니 사퇴하라 이런 판국에 마구 서명해서 할 일은 아니거든요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>내년에 해도 되잖아요</p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>박근혜 대통령이 본인의 임기나 또는 보장이 안되는 것 같고 흔들리는 것 같으니까오히려 빨리 사인할 수 있을 때 사인하도록 누군가가 급하게 요청한거 아니냐</p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>그래서 이게 손님인줄 알았는데 도둑인게 발각이 난겁니다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>훔치고 있었는데 쫓겨나게 생겼거든요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>그러니까 좀 더 많이 훔쳐가자 그러니까 담장 밖으로 뭔가 던져주는게 아닌가 싶어요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>일본도 주고 미국도 주고<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>어차피 빨리 나가야되는데<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>그렇게 던져주려면 미리 받은게 있어야 하는거 아닙니까</p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>그건 모르겠어요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>던져주는건 분명합니다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>일본도 안될거라고 포기하고 있었거든요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>정국 혼란 때문에 추진이 어렵겠다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>이렇게 판단했다는데 한국 정부에서 마구 서둘러서 밀어붙이고 지금 가서명하고 본서명도 곧 하겠다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">,</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>대통령의 일정상으로는 내일 국무회의에서 상정한다고 하는데<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>그래서 제가 이걸 제가 유심히 봤는데 국가안보가 걸린 문제니까<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>다행히 <span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">1</span>년마다 계약을 갱신하게 되어 있더라고요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>한일협정을 연장 안하면 되는데 그나마 너무 큰 걱정을 안하셔도 될 것 같아요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>본인이 당선될거니까<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">?</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>누가되든<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>이럴땐 또<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>너무 그러면 안됩니다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>이미 많이 그래놓고<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>적당히 해야된다니까<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>이미 적당히는 넘어가신 분이예요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>그래요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">? </span>제가 <span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">PPL</span>전문이라<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>저희가 거의 한시간 가까이 훅 지나가버렸는데<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>오늘은 여기까지만 하고요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>이 문자도 참 많이 옵니다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. ‘</span>시장님은 정동영계다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">’ </span>이 이명박계라는 얘기는 해명하셨는데 저쪽에 <span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">3</span>지대에 함께할거다 이런 얘기도 나왔는데<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>정동영 때문에 정치입문했다는 이런 얘기도 나오는데 그건 아니고 <span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">2006</span>년에 시장선거 나오려고 나왔다가 <span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">2007</span>년 대선때 모든 사람들이 지지하는 후보가 있잖아요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>저는 그때 정동영 후보를 지지했고 그 때 당시에 우리 정봉주 의원은 손학규 지지했잖아요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>그거 때문에 현장에서 한번 다툰 일이 있는데<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>다투기 딱 좋은 성격의 두 사람이죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>그 때 대선 끝나고 난 다음에 정치적 길은 다르고 탈당하셨는데 그거랑은 또 다르죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>예를 들어 추미애 대표님 문재인과 가까운데 그런 식으로 따지면 탄핵했던 분이잖아요 과거에 정치적 이력을 가지고 얘기하면 정동영 의장의 대선을 도왔지만 그 다음에 손학규 대표 지원했고요 한명숙 총리 선거할 때 제가 경기도에서 가장 많이 도와준 사람이예요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>그리고 정세균 대표도 당 선거할 때는 경기동부 책임자였죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>저는 다 걸려있어요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>본인에게 다 도움만 된다면<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">,</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>정치적 선택을 언제나 해야죠 정치인들은<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>관계없이 나는 몰라 그러면 정치인이 아니죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>당원으로 당의 중요한 의사결정에 언제나 참여하고 자기 의사 표명하고 그 중에 한 때의 경력을 가지고 매도하면 그건 정말 나쁜거죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>마지막 질문인데<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>예정된 시간은 지났는데 지금 <span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">1</span>위 <span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">2</span>위가 현재 기준으로 문재인<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>반기문 정도가 대선후보 <span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">1,2</span>위를 오랫동안 다투고 있습니다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>본인이 지금 <span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">3</span>위로 올라왔는데 <span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">2</span>위로 올라가는 시점은 언제입니까<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">?</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>시간 예측이 잘 안되더라고요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>국민들의 여론이라는게 놀라울 정도로 빨리 변하기 때문에 저는 예측을 내년 봄 정도에 했었거든요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>지금 <span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">10</span>프로를<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>내년 봄 생각했는데</p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>저는 안철수 대표를 확실히 넘어서 문재인 대표님을 쉽게 넘지는 못할테고요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, 5</span>년 동안 준비하신 분인데<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>인지도 <span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">90%</span>가 넘고<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">,</span>저는 인지도 <span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">50</span>프로도 안되는 사람인데 그래도 한 두달 정도면 좀 많이 나아지지 않을까<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">..</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: 2</span>등 정도는 따라잡을 수 있다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">?</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: 2</span>등을 따라잡을 수 있을지 모르겠어요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>근거는요<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">?</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>시대의 흐름이죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>무섭습니다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>저는 정치인의 역할을 대리하는거라고 봅니다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>보통은 사람들은 지도하는거라고 생각하죠<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>저는 대리에 충실하려고 하기 때문에 우리 머슴을 부리는 주인 국민들이 저를 곧 이뻐하게 될거다 말 잘듣지<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">, </span>험한일 앞에서 먼저 잘하려고 하지<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">,</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;letter-spacing:0pt;">김어준<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>지금까지 지지율 <span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">3</span>위에 최근 여론조사 몇군데에서 올라서서 매일 <span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">30</span>여차례 본인의 이름을 포털에 검색하는 이재명 성남시장이었구요 조만간 다시 모시겠습니다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">.</span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;"><span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;"> </span></p> <p style="font-family:'Nanum Gothic', '나눔고딕';font-size:14px;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;font-weight:600;color:#535353;">이재명<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">: </span>제가 나가면서 얼마나 많은 사람들이 뉴스공장을 청취했는지 곧 뉴스 검색을 하겠습니다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span>감사합니다<span style="font-family:'바탕';padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:0pt;">. </span></p>
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