<div><br></div> <div><br></div> <div><br></div> <div><br></div> <div> <table class="protectTable" style="font-family:'굴림', gulim, tahoma, sans-serif;font-size:12px;line-height:1.6;width:758px;color:#333333;"><tbody><tr style="line-height:1.6;"><td style="line-height:1.6;"> <p style="margin:0px;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#444444;">출처-김어준의 파파이스 이번주화</span><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#444444;"><br></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#444444;"><br></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#444444;"><br></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff5e00;">김어준:제가 보기에는 가장 극적으로</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff5e00;">평생 업계에서 쌓아온 업력같은걸 부정 당하고</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff5e00;">공격받고 사기꾼으로 몰리고</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff5e00;">그 첫번재로 계신분이 이분입니다</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff5e00;">이종인 대표를 모시겠습니다</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;text-align:center;"><img src="" class="txc-image" hspace="1" vspace="1" border="0" width="580" style="clear:none;float:none;" alt=""></p> <p style="margin:0px;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff5e00;font-size:9pt;">김어준:JTBC에 나와서</span><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff5e00;">많은 사람들이 이게 무슨일인가 하고있을때</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff5e00;">저 배안에 사람이 살아있을수도 있다</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff5e00;">이 이야기를 처음으로 하셨죠</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff5e00;">그리고 현장에 갔다가</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff5e00;">결국에는</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff5e00;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;"><span style="color:#ff0000;">장사꾼 사기꾼 이런식으로</span></strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff5e00;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;"><span style="color:#ff0000;">모욕주는 방식으로</span></strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff5e00;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;"><span style="color:#ff0000;">사회적으로 매장시키려고 했었어요</span></strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff5e00;">저쪽에서</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff5e00;">그래서 이제</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff5e00;">3년간 못했던 이야기가 많이 있는데</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff5e00;">아직은 다풀 수 없겠죠</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff5e00;"> </span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff5e00;">정권이 바뀌면 그럴 수 있을것같은데..</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff5e00;">이것부터 이야기 해볼게요</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff5e00;">다이빙 벨 가서 내렸을때</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff5e00;">그때 내가 정말 죽을지도 모른다</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff5e00;">현장에서..</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">이종인:이상호 기자가 준 어떤 첩보</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">그사람들 어떤 정부 관리들 간의</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">메세지를 보여주는데</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">(이종인을)제거해라 직접적으로</strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;"><br></strong></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">그런걸 보고나니까 사실..실감이 안났는데</strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">영화같은 이야기 아니에요 그게</strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;"> 설마 그랬는데</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">언제 그런걸 느꼈냐면</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">제 두번째 총장하고 장관이 불러서 갔을때</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">가서 세월호 현장에 배를 대는데</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">방해 끝에 나왔거든요</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">나와서 그 파도가 좀 쳐서</strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">대기하고 있던도중이였어요 섬에서</strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;"><br></strong></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">섬가까이에서 투묘를하고 기다리고 있었는데</strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">아침에 해경 간부하나가 전화가와요</strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;"><br></strong></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">아 대표님 뭐하시냐고</strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">일을 같이한번 힘을 합쳐서 해보자고</strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">구조를 해보자고 그러는데</strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;"><br></strong></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">누가 옆에서 듣는상태의 분위기라는걸</strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">알수 있었죠</strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;"><br></strong></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;"></strong></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">빨리 오시라고..같이 일하자고</strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;"><br></strong></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">그때 파도가 2M치고 그럴때에요</strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">그러 배를 못대는건 당연하죠</strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;"><br></strong></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;"><br></strong></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">아니 무슨소리를 하냐고</strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">날씨가 이래서 지금 피양을 하는 상황인데</strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;"><br></strong></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">그러면 대표님이라도 오십시오</strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;"><br></strong></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;"><br></strong></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;"><br></strong></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;"><span style="color:#ff5e00;">김어준:혼자?</span></strong></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;"><br></strong></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;"><br></strong></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">이종인:네 경비정 보낼테니까</span><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">그래서 전화를 바로 끊었어요</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">앵커를 바로 걷어서 팽목항으로 도망왔어요</strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff5e00;">김어준:알 수 없는 상황인거 알고도..오라고?</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">이종인:배 같은데서 사고가 나면</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">어선같은데에서 살인사건이 나요</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">그래서 보면 사람이 실종이 되요</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">그거는 ...단순한 감정으로 되는건데..</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">저녁에 그냥 밀어버려요</strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">그런상황이 나한테 일어날 수 있다는거죠</strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff5e00;">김어준:우리는 모르지만...쨋든 그런시도가 있다는것을</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff5e00;">이거는 나를 보내려고 하려고 그러는구나</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff5e00;">하는 시도를 느끼신거구나</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">이종인: 그렇죠</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">그리고 또 한번은 5월 1일에..그전날</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">다이빙 2시간하고 철수를 하게 되어서</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">현장에 왔는데</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">가족들의 뭐.그런..</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">그 이야기는 아시죠?</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff5e00;">김어준:유가족들이 나서면 그때는</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff5e00;">아무도 뭐라고 할 수 없는 상황이잖아요</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">유가족중 일부가 이종인 사기꾼이라고</strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">공격을 했었죠</strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">이종인:그때까지만 해도 사기꾼으로...</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">극상하진 않고 그냥 실패자</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#2f9d27;">김보협:장사하러 왔냐..뭐그런</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">이종인:그렇죠</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff5e00;">김어준:세월호 이야기를 해보자면</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff5e00;">일단 인양3년..이게 말이 안되지 않습</span><span style="color:#ff5e00;">니까?간단하게</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">이종인:너무 오래걸렸죠 </span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff5e00;">김어준:3년이라는거 말이 안되는거죠?</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">이종인:그리고 저는 예상하기에</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">세월호가 3년 요 근래..이렇게 나왔지만</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">이렇게 빨리 건지리라고 생각안했어요 사실은</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff5e00;">김어준:계속</span><span style="color:#ff5e00;"> 질질 끌것이다?</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">이종인:네</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;"> 처음에 인양문제는 </span><span style="color:#003399;">우선시 되지않고</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">일단 구조부터 먼저하자</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">시신 수습부터 먼저</span><span style="color:#003399;">하자</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">가족들의 반대로 아마 꽤 시간이 지났을거에요</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">인양문제가 나온거는</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">그러면 인양문제가 대두되고나서</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">업자선정이니 뭐니하면서 몇개월을 끌었어요</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">사실 그럴게 아닌데</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">고만한 배를 건질 수 있는 능력의</strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">구조회사들이 우리나라에도 몇개 되요</strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">그런데 배제를 시킨걸로 알고있고</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">그래서 했을경우</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">결정이 되면 6개월이면</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">충분히 배를 지금같이 배가 옆으로 누워있어서</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">일어나는 문제들이</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">전혀 상관없이 온전하게 건질 수 있었죠</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff5e00;">김어준:그이상 걸릴 이유가없죠?</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">이종인:저희 해상 작업을할때는</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">특히 중요한 일을 할때에는</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">앞을 예상을 못해요</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">오늘날씨가 좋다고해서 내일 날씨가 좋으라는 법이 없거든요</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">그러니까 기회가 좋아졌을때 4배인력을 넣는다던가</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">그런식으로해도 6개월이면 충분했던</span><span style="color:#003399;"> 일이죠</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff5e00;">김어준:나머지 2년은 일부러 안건졌다고 봐도 되는일이네요</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">이종인:공법이 바뀌었고 뭐 이런저런  이야기들이 나오더라구요</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">그런 공법도 써서는..</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">그배 구조에서는 그런 구조에서 써서는 안되엇고</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff5e00;">김어준:애초부터 그런 이야기는 이제</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff5e00;">우리 국내업체에서들도 처음부터 이야기 했다고..</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff5e00;">그 공법은 안되었다고</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">이종인:저도 실패를 한번 했습니다</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">천안함 사고 났을때</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">천안함 1200톤인데</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">우리가 2400톤짜리를 건지는데</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">사실은 비용문제에 있어서</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">크레인을 들면</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">하루 사용료가 일반적인 경우가 6시간 사용하는데</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">1억 2천을 줬어요</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">1억 2천을 주면</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">적어도 4일하면 거의 5억돈이 나가잖아요</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">그러를 부력백으로 하면</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">그돈이 안들어가니까</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">그런생각을 안했다고 볼수도 없지 이사람들도</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#2f9d27;">김보협:비용을 먼저 생각하는건 말이 안되잖아요</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">이종인:그런데 업자 입장에서는....</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#2f9d27;">김보협:업자에서는 그럴수 있어요</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">이종인:<span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">중요한거는 해수부에서 그거를 ..했다는거지 </strong></span></span><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff5e00;">김어준:해수부에서..</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff5e00;">그런데 실제 비용은 거의 똑같이 들었다고 하던데</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">이종인:사실 그 돈을 주고 어떻게 하겠다라는게</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">지금 결과적으로 그렇게 꺼낸 방법이잖아요</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">그럼 그 방법대로 돈을 줬으면</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">그대로 했어야지</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff5e00;">김어준:그것까지 판단하실 수 없겠지만</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">구멍을 많이 뚫는방식으로 한건 아닌가 거꾸로..(일부러)</strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff5e00;">저는 그런생각도 들어요</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">이종인:배가 떠있다가 가라앉으면 다시 띄울수 있는거에요</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">무조건요 떠있던건요</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">그리고 재료가 철로 되어있기 때문에</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">와이퍼 로프를 쓰든 체인을 쓰든</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">중량만 부산을 시키면</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">물론 접촉면이 찌그러지는건 있어요 약간</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">그정도는 감수하고 계약을 하죠</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">선체 보존에 대해서는</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">그리고 그런 이양할때 생기는 변형같은건</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">나중에 조사할때 </span><span style="color:#003399;">인정이 되니까</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">구멍을 뚫었다 라는건...</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">배에 어떤 부분</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">예를들어서..</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">제가 믿는 바는 배가 사고가난게</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">배에 무조건 물이 들어와서</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">침수가 원인이라고 봐요</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">그런데 구멍을 ..</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">그런 공정을 핑계로</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">구멍을 뚫는건..</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">전기나 산소를 이용해서</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">불어서 산화시키는거에요</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">그렇게 철을 잘라내는건데</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">그거는 어떤..치명적인 부분</strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">흔적을 없앨수 있죠</strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff5e00;">김어준:<span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">침수의 흔적이라던가</strong></span></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">..그걸 모르는거죠 우리는</strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">이종인:그리고 선체를 볼때</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">배가 부딪혀서 사고가 났다면</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">부딪힌 자국이 있다면</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">부딪힌 자국이 모서리로 찍었다면 쏙 들어갔겠지만</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">둔탁한 물체가 툭 치고갔다면</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">눈에 안나타나요</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">그런 측면까지도 고려해서 봐야하는데</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">과연 지금 조사위원들이</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">그런쪽으로 얼마나 경험이 있고</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">또 뒷받침 할 수 있는 경력이 있는지.</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">그게 의문스럽더라구요 걱정</span><span style="color:#003399;"> 되고</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff5e00;">김어준:이 중국업체의 실력이 낫나요?우리보다</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff5e00;">우리나라 업체가 중국보다 실력이 떨어져서</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff5e00;">선정이 안된겁니까?</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">이종인:이거는 많이 해볼수록...실력이 낫다고 볼 수 있으니까</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">그래서 예를들어서 실력이 낫다 들하다의 차이는</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">효율적으로 하루에 건지느냐 한달이 걸리느냐</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">이런차이정도로 이야기 할 수 있는데</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">그사람들 하는거봐서는</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">우리보다 나을게 없는것 같습니다</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff5e00;">김어준:왜 중국업체가 다들 반대하는 인양방식을</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff5e00;">제시했던 중국업체가</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff5e00;">결국 비용도 똑같은 중국업체가 선정 되었다고 보세요?</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">이종인:<span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">철저히 보안이 지켜질 수 있는 이점이 있었겠죠</strong></span></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">가리려는 입장에서는</strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff5e00;">김어준:그렇게 추정을 하시나요?</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff5e00;">딱히 중국업체를 할 이유가 없었는데</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">이종인:그</span><span style="color:#003399;">렇죠 그냥 제 생각이 그렇다는거에요</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff5e00;">김어준:<span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">jtbc 첫출 연때부터 생존 </strong></span></span><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">가능성이 있다</strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">아이들이...</strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff5e00;">그 이야기를 계속 하셨단 말이죠</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff5e00;">마지막까</span><span style="color:#ff5e00;">지 해봐야한다고 할 수 있는거다</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff5e00;">지금도 그렇게 생각하십니까?</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">이종인:지금 뭐 오늘 밤이라도 비슷한 사고가나면</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">사람이 먼저죠</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">무조건 배가 떠있으면...그안에 공기가 있다는거고</strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;"><br></strong></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">공기는 사람이 숨을 쉬지 않는 한</strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">21%의 산소가 대기처럼 있는거니까</strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;"><br></strong></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;"></strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">그 21%의 산소가 15~16%될때..까지는</strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">숨을 쉴 수가 있는거죠</strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff5e00;">김어준:그러니까 <span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">세월호 사고 첫날은</strong></span></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff5e00;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">무조건 살아 있었다고</strong></span> 보시는거고..?</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">이종인:<span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">무조건 살아있었죠</strong></span></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">무조건 살아있었고</strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;"><br></strong></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;"><br></strong></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;"><span style="color:#ff0000;">배가 가라앉기전까지도 살아있었던 사람</span><span style="color:#ff0000;">이 있다고 봐요</span></strong></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">저는 왜그러냐면</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">바깥하고 사이에 물이 있기때문에 못나왔을뿐이지</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">공기중하고 똑같은 대기압상태에</strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;"><span style="color:#ff0000;">있었던</span><span style="color:#ff0000;"> 아이들도 있었을거에요</span></strong></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;"><br></strong></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">그랬으면 아이들도 그쪽에 많이 모여있다가</strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;"><br></strong></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">하루도 아니고 이틀도 아니고 삼일을 기다렸는데</strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">사일을 기다렸는데도 안와</strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;"><br></strong></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">그럼 어떻게 해요 거기서</strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">나오질 못하는데..</strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff5e00;">김어준:<span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">아이가 너무 깨끗한 상태로 나왔기 때문에</strong></span></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff5e00;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">틀림없이 오랫동안 생존하고 </strong></span>있었을것이다..</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">이종인:그 학부형중에..유가족이죠</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">학부형중에 하나가 자기 자식이 올라오는데</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">거의 두달 이후에 발견이 되어서 올라왔어요</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">애들이 올라올 때마다 확인을 하느라고</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">200여구를 본거에요</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">봤는데..</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">지금 말씀하신 그아이는 얼굴이 너무 깨끗하게 나왔어요</strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">같은 두달인데</strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;"><br></strong></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">마치 엊그제 죽은애처럼</strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">그래서 부모들이 원통해하고 그런일이 생각이 나는데..</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">두달을 찬물속에 있었기 때문에</strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">사실 부패될 요소는 없어요</strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff5e00;">김어준:그러니까 한마디로</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">어떤아이는 너무 깨끗했다는거에요</strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;"><br></strong></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">그래서 그 아이는 오래 살아남았던 아이가 아니냐</strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">이렇게 해석을 했는데</strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;"><br></strong></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">정반대로 해석해야 한다는거죠</strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">이종인:원래 몸속에</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">고압공기가 녹아드는 방식을 푸는 방식은</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">감압이라고 많이 알려져있죠</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">다이버들이 그냥 올라오면 잠수병에 걸린다</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">그래서 호흡을 통해서</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">중간중간 압력을 조금 낮은대로 옮기면서</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">녹아들은 공기를 빼내고 빼내고 나왔을때</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">정상이 되는건데</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">얘네들은 숨을 못쉬잖아요</strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;"><br></strong></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;"><br></strong></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">거기서 숨을 쉬었다는것을 증명하는게</strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">나왔을때 몸이 부푸는 방법밖에 없어요</strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">이 공기가 녹아든게</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">피부로 눈으로 입으로 나오는게 아니에요</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">몸에 녹아들어간거는</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">일시에 주변압이 낮아지면</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">즉</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">발견된 곳에서</strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">수면위로 올라왔을때</strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">어느정도 시간이 경과함에 따라서</strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">몸이 부풀게 되요</strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff5e00;">김어준:<span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">깨끗하게 온전한 얼굴로 나온아이는</strong></span></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">오히려 빨리 사망한아이고</strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;"><br></strong></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;"><span style="color:#ff0000;">몸이 부풀어서 나온 아이들은 오히려</span></strong></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">거기서 살아남아서 거기있던 압축공기를 마시고</strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">있다가 사망을 했고</strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;"><br></strong></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;"><span style="color:#ff0000;">그러니까 살아있었다</span><span style="color:#ff0000;">는거죠?</span></strong></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">그 사망한 아이를 압축공기를 마신상태에서</strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">끌어올리니까..감압하지않고..</strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">그러니가 몸이 부푼거다</strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;"><br></strong></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;">몸이 부푼 아이들이 오래 살아남아 있었던</strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;"><span style="color:#ff0000;">아이들이였던</span><span style="color:#ff0000;">거에요 거꾸로</span></strong></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">이종인:<span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;"><span style="font-size:18pt;">근데 그 수가 200여명이 된다니까..</span></strong></span></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;"><span style="font-size:18pt;">200여명이....</span></strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">후...</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;">(방청객 술렁임)<br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff5e00;">김어준:부푼 정도의 차이가 있겠지만</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff5e00;">살아있었다..</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;"><span style="font-size:12pt;">즉사하지 않았다는거죠</span></strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">이종인:그거는 사실이에요</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">그러니까..뭐..그건 자연의 섭리이고</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#003399;">그렇게 몸이 되는것은</span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;"><span style="font-size:14pt;">그렇게 해서 증명을 한거죠</span></strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong style="letter-spacing:0px;"><span style="font-size:14pt;">엄마 아빠 나 살아있었다고</span></strong></span></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;">김어준의 파파이스 이번화 - <a target="_blank" href="https://youtu.be/_XRwhN3CHxY" target="_blank" class="tx-link" style="color:#333333;">https://youtu.be/_XRwhN3CHxY</a><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;"><br></p> <p style="margin:0px;color:#444444;text-align:center;">출처- 樂싸커</p></td></tr></tbody></table></div>